Monday, November 29, 2010

What if the abomination of desolation already happened? Matthew 24:15


Mat 24:15 "So when you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand),” This is Jesus’ warning about the abomination that makes desolate. He makes an interesting statement. He says, let the reader understand... which calls the readers... Matthew’s original audience (not us today), to realize that they must understand the prophecy of Daniel.

So the question that I would like to ask is this; does the abomination of desolation have to be one event or, could it be a series of events that begins with abomination and ends in desolation? Further, could Matthew 24:15 find its fulfillment in the time frame of the original audience of Matthews’s gospel? I think that the answer to both questions is a resounding yes indeed!

In order to see this more clearly it is necessary to look at a bible timeline. The bible timeline will show very clearly that God’s intervention into the timeline comes in very short bursts of activity relatively speaking. That is, when one looks at the time line in terms of thousands of years the activity takes place in a relatively short time. For example all of the Prophets prophesied in a time period that began in approximately 765BC and ended in 433BC which is a period of roughly 330 years. All of the prophecies for the day of the Lord came within this period.

According to Maccabees, (1Macc 1:57), Antiochus Epiphanes set up the abomination of desolation in the temple in 167BC. Then, history teaches us that Titus of Rome desolated the temple in 70AD. In other words, the prophecies of the 330 year period were completely fulfilled in a 237 year period from Antiochus to Titus; Antiochus was the abominator and Titus was the desolator. Daniel puts it this way:And on the wing of abominations shall come one who makes desolate, until the decreed end is poured out on the desolator." On the wing of abominations suggest that it is a prolonged period of time. There were indeed many abominations to the temple over this time period

This is no doubt why Jesus said let the reader understand. It was not going to be as obvious as the verbiage would suggest. No, it would take understanding on the part of the reader.... that is... the intended reader of Matthew’s gospel. This means it was targeted specifically to the Jewish believers. This explains why it is only found in Matthew’s account of the little apocalypse. It would only be understandable to the Jewish community that was expecting the fulfillment of Daniel’s prophecy in their time. It was to the group of Jewish believers that accepted Jesus as the Messiah and were fully aware of the time table of Daniel’s seventy weeks prophecy.... that were expecting the end of the age and the age to come imminently. We have shown time after time on this blog that the imminent expectation of the fulfillment of all prophecy is everywhere in every book of the New Testament.

18 comments:

  1. Daniel 3:1-6 shows the abomination of desolation. It makes the sacrifice of Christ desolate, or of none effect. It has been here for centuries but the church keep saying it's future. Why? Because it points right at the church teaching the kills masses of people. Eternal suffering alive in hell. Verse 6 shows this doctrine which was prophesied in the false (perception) image of God that Nebuchadnezzar set up after Daniel revealed the dream to him. He was a believer in Daniel's God when he erected the false image. Hence the woman riding the dragon is the church and MYSTERY BABYLON. But worry not, Nebuchadnezzar repents.

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  3. In reference to your question, (could it be a series of events), I’m in agreement with you when you said yes. It could be any purposeful attempt to ridicule and deny that God is real and present.

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  4. the word desolation in the original herbrew means to rob the treasury.

    OBAMA IS the Abomination of Desolation

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  5. Obama is not the abomination. This comment is the result of religious "We are good, they are bad" thinking, and makes Jesus a liar when he said, "Why are you calling me good? There are none good but God."

    Are you judging Obama by the law? The law doesn't divide us, it unites us all. How? None of us keep it.

    The abomination of desolation is found in Daniel 3:6 and is found in Christian doctrine. The cross was a deadly wound to the beast image of God but Christians healed the wound in the doctrine found in Daniel 3:6. Eternal suffering alive in hell.

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  6. the abomination of desolation makes a covenant for a week. I don't see this with titus so perhaps is yet to be fulfilled. also it makes mention of armies constituting more than one kingdom which would be in conjuction with a 10 ruler kingdom in confederation with the abomination. i'd like to know your thoughts on these aspects.

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    1. U.N. = Ten Kings (Kingdoms) that rule with the beast for one hour. God will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, not man. The stone represents the Kingdom of God that will over take all these kingdoms of men. Babylon II is modern Rome that lies in bed with all the kings of this earth, she gets rich and is drunken with the blood of all the saints all through the ages right to this very day, right unto the end of this world. The pope blesses the U.N. flag...!!!

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  7. Actually, that could have been fulfilled by Antiochus Epiphanes the abominator. In the beginning, the Jews sought his help to rid them of the reign of the Tobiads. He showed his true colors much later and abominated the temple. Joseph reports in "War of the Jews" 6.5.3 that both the Jews and the Romans saw gleaming Armies in the clouds. This was also reported by the Roman historians Tacitus and Suetonius. All of these things happened within the time frame and to the second temple as prophesied. The second temple no longer exists. Julian the Apostate tried to rebuild it and flames shot out of the ground and consumed the construction workers.

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  8. To All Christ believers,
    Truth about man made churches around the world.
    Many believe the lie, but only few will believe the love of the truth Matt 7:13-15; Matt 24:24>1 Thess 2:9>Luke 4:5-6.
    My testimony on video is REAL.
    God sent me spiritually into the great city Rev 11:8. I saw my own spiritual body go into the earth after God anointed me in the river of life.
    I am witness in seeing the beast ascended out of the bottomless pit and in spiritual perdition right NOW.
    Once spiritual perdition ends Rev 11:9-13, then beast goes to religious leader in Rome Dan 8:23-25; 9:26-27>Dan 8:9-11>Rev 17:8,11;Dan 8:23.
    The word of God is spiritual. The prophecies of Revelation 11 is happening in the spirit realm.
    When spiritual perdition ends (42 months) then beast goes to religious leader in Rome (Rev 17:11) then all churches of Catholics, Christians, Mormons, Jehovah witnesses on earth shall fall under the rule of the anti Christ, the false lord Rev 9:4,15-16> Joel 2:2-10;Dan 8:23; Rev 16:14; Rev 18:2-3;Luke 21:34-35.
    Many believers come out of theses churches during spiritual perdition (42 months) Dan 12:7, And I heard the man clad in linen, who was above the waters of the river, and he raised his right hand and his left hand to the heavens, and he swore by the Life of the world, that in the time of [two] times and a half, and when THEY have ended shattering the strength of the holy people, all these will end.
    Who are "They" ? Those who believe the lie of the false lord in churches around the world Matt 7:21-22; Dan 7:25; Dan 8:11-12; Matt 13:24-28
    The battle between the tares and the wheat Gal 4:27,29; Rev 6:9-11; Matt 24:24

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    1. Come out of Her my people, share not in the plagues that shall come upon her. Revelation 17 and 18. Harlot = Rome, Vatican. Babylon II = False Christianity, 501-c-3 state incorporated religion. World Council of Churches = Rome, National Council of Churches = Protestant denominations, Gaia, New Agers Wican, U.N. and the mindless man, all a one world religion united under satan's spell of deception. She lies in bed with the kings of this earth, she is not pure, chaste and clean. She is full of dirty birds...!!!

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  9. Many believers come out of the false doctrines of churches Rom 1:18; 2 Peter 2:1-2; 2 Peter 2:18-19,For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error. While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption:
    Seek God in prayer for the truth. I did hear my testimony on video just Google "Christ testimony of the churches around the world"

    Seek God in prayer for the truth. Be ready for Joel 2:28-29; Torah - Joel 3:1-2 upon all flesh: upon anyone whose heart becomes soft as flesh. Comp (Ezekiel 36:26) "And I will give you a heart of flesh." The great outpouring of God's Spirit upon ALL FLESH, "The Sealing" Rev 7:2-3, 14; Acts 2:2-3; Dan 12:10; 2 Tim 2:19; Ezek 9:4,6.
    The true sealing of God’s Spirit 1 John 2:26-27>Heb 8:10-11.

    Once outpour of God's Spirit happens Joel 2:28-29; Rev 7:2>3; Rev 7:9>14, then comes Great Tribulation Joel 2:1-10.
    In Ezekiel 8 & 9 the sealing of God happens first to those that leave the temples of God and weep. then the destroyer is sent starting in the temples of God (man made churches).

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  10. The beast is the little horn Dan 8:9, the false lord Rev 17:8; Luke 4:5,9>matt 24:15>Is 14:12-14>Dan 8:10-11;Rev 17:8-Mystery Babylon the Great Mother of Harlots abominations of the earth is mother catholic church in Rome AND ALL churches of the earth. These churches are Catholics, Christians, Mormons, Jehovah witnesses that are planted around the world Rev 17:15; Rev 12:9. All these churches spiritually connected to mother in Rome and the great city Rev 17:18; Rev 11:8.

    All churches have same roots as mother in Rome- ministers, priests(host), choir, music, instruments, souls of men, "the bride and groom" and many more Dan 8:12-13; Rev 18:22-24>Rev 6:9-11.

    There are two identical strait gates Matt 7:13 / Matt 7:14
    Two men hearing word of God and build a house Matt 7:24-25; Matt 25:4 / Matt 7:26-27; Matt 25:3.
    Two image of man Dan 2:31-32/ 1Cor 12:12-13,18.
    Two altars Rev 11:1; Heb 9:24;Rev 5:6 / Heb 9:1, 11
    Two temples Luke 21:5-6; Rev 18:22-23;Matt 24:1-4;Lam 4:12 / John 2:18-19;2 Peter 1:13-14;Heb 8:2; Heb 9:11.
    Two kingdoms:
    Fourth kingdom thru works of man's hands Dan 7:11,23,25-26;Dan 8:22-25; Zep3:8; Hag 2:22; Jer 20:5;Isa 24:22;Matt 4:8;Matt 7:22;Luke 4:5.

    Everlasting kingdom of Christ thru the Spirit of God w/o man's hands 1 Chron 17:11,14; Dan 2:35, 44-45; Dan7:22,27;John 4:23-24; Rev 21:1-3; Luke 17:20-24; Col 3:1-4; Heb 8:1-2; Eph 2:20-22;Rom 2:28-29;Col 3:1-3 Philip 3:3,9-11;Rom 2:29;Gal 5:24; 1Peter 4:1-2.

    Two vineyards- Isa 5:3-5; Jer 2:21;Matt 21:33-39; Rev 14:18-19>Matt 13:30 / Matt 26:29; John 15:1, 4-5;James 3:12; Isa 55:1 ("clusters" means a number of things of the same kind, growing or held together; a bunch like an assemble, congregation)

    Two kinds of kings of the earth: the wheat Rev 1:5-6; Rev 5:10; Rev 21:24.

    the tares Hsa 8:4>Rom2:28; Ps 2:2>Acts 4:26; Jer 2:26;Jer 32:32;Rev 6:15;Rev 16:14 Rev 17:10,18; Isa 24:21;Rev 19:18>Rev 13:16; Rev 11:7>Dan 8:24> Dan 8:12>Rev 17:13>Rev19:19
    Two Great Cities Gal 4:25-27; Rev 11:8; Rev 21:1,10

    Two lords: True Lord-Ps 80:17;Isa 40:10-11>John 1:18;49:7;Luke 1:69,And has raised up an HORN of salvation for us in the house of his servant David ; Rev19:12-13; 1Ti 6:15; Is 52:10.
    False lord- Rev 17:8; Dan 7:21,25; Dan 8:9,11,And out of one of them came forth a LITTLE HORN, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land; Yes, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of the sanctuary was cast down; Matt 7:21-22;24:24

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  11. All religious church buildings of worship that represent the name of God and his word are Rev 11:2 and Dan 8:10-11> Luke 21:24; Matt 24:15,24.
    This is Ezek 8:3 outer court of God’s heavenly temple, then in Ezek 8:12 refers to religious man made buildings representing the name of God. Notice the word, "Chambers" this fits description of man made churches on earth Matt 24:26; Ezek 9:6>Rev 9:4.

    This is where all man made churches proclaim peace but there is no peace Dan 8:25>1 thess 5:3> 2 thess 2:7,9>Matt 24:24-26> Dan 11:45>Luke 4:5-6,9Rev 13:18> Dan 8:12>Is 14:17>Rev 13:2>Rev17:8! This is real prophecy!

    Fulfillment of the gentiles are man made churches on earth Luke 21:24>Rev 11:2;Luke 4:5; Is 14:13>Dan 8:10-11;Matt 13:27-28;24:24;Matt 7:21-22, 24-27; 2 Thess 2:3,7,9.

    Mark of beast is spiritual because in Rev 9, these things will seek out believers of the bible on earth which are the tares and the wheat Matt 7:21-22;Matt 7:24-27; Matt13:25> Matt 24:24.

    Spiritual mark of the beast comes from false teachings of churches of Catholics, Christians, Mormons, and Jehovah Witnesses Rev 18:23>2 Cor 11:13-15; Is 9:6>2 Thess 2:3-4;Matt 24:24; Rev 13:8,18; Rev 16:14> 1 Tim 4:1-2>Rev 18:2>Rev 17:14>Ps 2:2-5>Rev 19:19,21>Joel 2:11> Matt 24:29.

    People in churches will be spiritually infected by plagues and become the army of the beast, false lord 2 Thess 2:9-10>Rev 13:16-17;Joel 2:2>Joel 1:6>Rev 9:8; Rev 9:9>Joel 2:4-5; Rev 9:15;Rev 16:14; Rev 19:19>Rev 6:15-17.
    Look at Matt 7:21-22 then Rev 19:12, Christ is given a NEW name and no man knows this name. Therefore the beast is removed in spiritual battle because it has no power over the new name of Christ nor do the man made churches around the world, which follow the false lord Rev 17:8>Dan 7:8>Dan 8:11>Matt 24:15; 2 Thess 2:4.

    Many believers come out of the man made churches Rev 15:2-3; 18:4-5; Dan 12:7; John 11:52.

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  12. Truth about left behind and the rapture- There is no left behind or rapture before or during Great Trib Matt 24:29; 2 peter 3:10. Word of God says Christ will remove beast and false prophet in spirit realm first Joel 2:11>2 thess 2:8-9>Rev 19:20-21>Dan 7:11;8:25. this ends Great Trib Joel 2:10-11; Rev 19:15,20; Dan 8:25;2 Thess 2:8.During spiritual battle signs appear in the heavens Joel 2:10>Joel... 3:14-15;Rev 8:12.

    Then Christ appears in natural realm and all eyes shall see him including those rising from the graves Rev 1:7; Dan 12:2,13;Matt 26:62-64; John 5:28-29.
    When beast and false prophet are removed then comes all nations against Israel Rev 11:1,18; 20:8-9; Dan 12:1. This event happening in spirit and earthly realm. Then God removes the devil Rev 20:10. God sends his son with consuming fire behind him Rev 20:9; 2 peter 3:10>1 thess 5:2;Matt 3:12;Dan 2:35; Dan 7:10. the sign of Christ coming Matt 24:29- verse 30 is verse 27; Joel 2:31;Rev 6:12-14;Rev 20:9. Then Christ appears in natural realm Acts 1:11.
    1 Cor 15:24-27 comes to pass. Then death and hell give up the dead Dan 12:2;John 5:28-29; 1 Cor 15:54-55;Rev 20:13. many rise from graves into their sinful flesh. many alive stay in sinful flesh Matt 24:40-41.
    many rise from graves into incorruptible body of Christ Luke 24:39,44-46;Is 26:19;Rom 4:24;6:9;8:11.
    many alive transfigured into incorruptible body of Christ 1 Cor 15:51-52;Matt 17:2,9;24:31;Rev 14:14-16.
    All happening as Christ appears and coming towards earth Rev 6:13-14; 2 peter 3:10.
    In front of Christ dead are rising from graves and behind Christ is the fire of God consuming all flesh and the earth 1 Cor 15:50; Rev 14:17-19.
    This event happens very quickly. There will be no earth or flesh left behind 2 peter 3:10. The beast and false prophet and the old serpent, and death and hell are in the lake of fire. All people are dead and standing before the throne of God Rev 20:11-12; Dan 7:10.
    Chosen people of God are gathered by Spirit of God into body of Christ at his appearing Is 26:19;40:31; John 17:24; Matt 24:27-28,31,33; Mark 13:27; 2 thess 2:1;matt 25:10;John 10:2,7; Luke 17:37; john 2:21; rom 8:23;12:5. These are the elect of grace that come out or stay away from man made churches around the world. They are sealed during outpouring of God's Spirit and come out of Great Tribulation ready for the coming of the son of man Matt 24:29-30:Rev 7:14;Matt 25:10; Joel 2:32; Dan 12:7,10>Matt 11:52.

    Seek God in prayer for the truth. I did hear my testimony on video just Google "Christ testimony of the churches around the world"

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    1. But scripture does say the dead in Christ shall rise "first", then we who are alive shall be caught up to be with the Lord. Satan shall be bound in the Abyss for 1,000 years at that time. Scripture says the rest of the dead did not resurrect from the grave until the 1,000 years were ended. There will be a 1,000 year reign of Christ in His Kingdom on this earth for 1,000 years. People will have longevity. Then "after" the 1,000 years is ended the rest of the dead will rise and stand before the Bema seat of God's judgment for their earthly deeds.

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  13. Testing all spirits 1 John 4:2-3, test seducing spirits 1 Tim 4:1-2; Rev 18:2-3, 23. These lying seducing spirits are in the churches Rev 18:2...don’t be fooled they are in every single church building around the world Rev 16:14.
    Test believers of the bible which are the tares in the churches of the false lord Rev 16:15; matt 7:15-20; Matt13:24-30;Dan 9:26-27.

    Acts 13:26; This is the word of salvation sent to the Jews and Gentiles- God sent his only begotten son and raised him from the dead on the third day Acts 13:26-30. The death of Jesus Christ's body on the tree destroyed ALL works of the devil and ALL works of the flesh Gal 3:13-14. the body of sin was destroyed when God raised his son from the dead on the third day Heb 2:14-15.
    Truly, truly, I say to you, He that hears my word, and believes on him that sent me, has everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death to life.

    Truly, truly, I say to you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live Eph 2:8-9 Gal 5:22-23.
    The operation of God for spiritual circumcision John 3:5-8; John 1:13; John 17:2; John 4:23-24. Becoming a Jew inwardly Rom 2:29; Heb 8:10-12.

    Many scriptures in Bible added and taken away Rev 22:18-19; Daniel 7:25; 2 Thess 2:9-10.
    The bible and Torah are testimonies John 5:39; Luke 24:44
    There are no other books or teachings outside of the bible or Torah. This is referring to the many published books, and many translations of the Bible and Torah Dan 7:25; Dan 8:24-25; Mark7:13; Acts 4:12.

    Take a look at Isaiah 9:6 KJV it was written incorrectly. And every spirit that confesses not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of anti christ, where of you have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world 2 John 1:7.
    Churches for many generations teach Isaiah 9:6KJV- 2 Thess 2:4>Isaiah 14:12-13>Luke 4:5-6;Rev 13:18>Dan 8:11-12>2 Cor 11:13-15. The image that is worshiped in the churches is man at the pulpit Rev 13:18; Dan 8:12;Matt 24:15; 2 Thess 2:4.

    The Torah Isaiah 9:5 is correct scripture from the Spirit of God declaring his son, "The Prince of Peace" thru the prophet Isaiah: For a child has been born to us, a son given to us, and the authority is upon his shoulder, and the wondrous adviser, the mighty God, the everlasting Father, CALLED HIS NAME, "the prince of peace." 2 Sam 7:12-13.

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    1. False Christians in the churches and false Jews in the sin-o-gogs...!!! Revelation chapter 3:9 They say they are Jews but are not but are of the sin-o-gog of Satan...!!! And MANY false Jews in the "state" of Israel, approved by the U.N. And the U.N. flag blessed by the pope. Jerusalem belongs to God not men. Do NOT be deceived...!!!
      http://www.orange-street-church.org/text/khazar.htm

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  14. Matthew 16:18, Jesus says that He will build His kingdom and the
    gates of hell shall not prevail against it .

    the word "Church" was added in the bible by man. the true word is "the Kingdom".

    2 Samuel 7:12-14, And when your days be fulfilled, and you shall sleep with your fathers, I will set up your seed after you, which shall proceed out of your bowels, and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever. I will be his father, and he shall be my son. If he commit iniquity, I will chasten him with the rod of men, and with the stripes of the children of men Isaiah 53:

    Daniel 7:13-14,I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him. And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.

    Hebrews 8:2, A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man Rev 21:2.

    Also Hebrews 9:11, But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building Matt 24:1-3;

    Luke 17:20-21, And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God comes not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you Revelation 11:1.

    In Matthew 24:23-24 refers to "Neither shall they say, Lo here! or lo there!"

    And another scripture:

    1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: Christ, the SON OF GOD was manifest in the flesh, justified by the Spirit of God, seen of angels, proclaimed to the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.



    John 5:23,That all men should honor the Son, even as they honor the Father. He that honors not the Son honors not the Father which has sent him.

    Jesus Christ came in the flesh Gal 4:4;Rom 8:3;John 1:14;John 6:51;Rom 1:3; 8:3; 1 Cor 1:29;Heb 2:12;5:7.
    Christ is the image of the invisible God Col 1:15. Christ is not God.

    The one true living God is a Spirit. God is not a man Num 23:19; John 4:23-24.
    Christ manifested in the flesh (Fulfilled)>1 Tim 3:16
    John 1:14
    John 1:30
    John 1:6
    John 1:33-34
    Hebrews 1:1-2
    Hebrews 2:14
    Hebrews 2:...16
    Hebrews 5:7
    1John 1:1-3
    Christ justified by the Spirit of God (Fulfilled)
    John 5:32,36-37
    Acts 2:22
    Acts 10:38
    John 14:10
    Isaiah 53:10-11
    Romans 3:25-26
    Romans 8:30
    Romans 8:33
    1Peter 3:18
    Hebrews 10:12
    1Timothy 2:5-6
    Seen of Angels (Fulfilled)
    Luke 2:15
    Luke 2:17-18
    Proclaim to the gentiles (Fulfilled)
    Matt 4:13-16; Matt 24:14; Acts 28:28
    Believed on in the world (Fulfilled)
    Matt 24:14
    Received up into glory (Fulfilled)
    John 16:28
    Acts 1:9-11

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